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Krayfish
TheReturnOfTheKing
• 10/21/2014

The future of Hallows Maleficent

As i just posted on HM:

I think I killed this wiki.

It's largely my fault for going on hiatus right after founding it. I should've waited a bit longer, given everyone time to plan a bit more, but instead, I tried to launch an underfueled rocket and it crashed. Now, any users besides (and including) myself who remain are staring at the screen with no idea what to do.

I myself don't really have any ideas about what to do, so I suggest we go back to GC and do a bit more brainstorming on what we want out of this project. I'd say we delete the wiki and wait to launch a new one, but you guys put so much work into the coding I don't have the heart. Instead, we'll put it on hold and come back to it later. This time, we'll have a battle plan.

Link to the thread where I posted this.

Now, this being the Planning board and all, I thought it would be a good place to put a brainstorm thread. Of course, if this is restricted to GC content only, which I understand perfectly, I'll just set up a similar thread on HM itself and include a link here.

Just to update you on the state of affairs, HM has hardly been edited in about a month, a fact that i attribute to a lacklustre and forced launching. I set up the wiki too early knowing I was about to go on a hiatus, so we began without energy and before we'd really planned any content. As a result, despite the best efforts of the users who decided to contribute to it, it belly-flopped.

To prevent such a thing happening again, we need a more decisive approach. We need to know what we're doing, why we're doing it and how we're going to pull it off. Any questions? Comments? Ideas? Suggestions? Thoughts? Post 'em here.

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Krayfish
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• 10/25/2014

Unfortunately, I will be going on hiatus again soon so I won't know how much I can actually contribute, but I'll offer a few ideas for a rebooted HM:

From a first impression view, HM seems a lot like ET but with a dark, edgy skin added over it. There's a lot of fantasy elements when really, horror can extend to a number of other genres such as sci-fi, historical or modern day. In my opinion, there should be at least one mundane location within HM that is similar to our world. Maybe some kind of Earth-like setting. Perhaps it doesn't have to span the entire world; it could even be just confined to some kind of laboratory or underground cultist hideout. Part of the reason we find things scary is because we don't understand them, and to have a sane location that we can relate with, it would serve as a contrast to just how otherworldly and unnerving the more horrific creatures are.

As for cosmology, what if the different hallows were some kind of series of dream-like nightmare worlds based on various human fears? There's the traditional ghosts, spiders, zombies and whatnot, but what about things such as embarrassment, being trapped or just fear itself? Something along the lines of a twisted version of Alice in Wonderland? I'd be curious to see a take on surreal horror which in my opinion can be a heck of a lot more frightening than any of the latest horror thrillers to grace theaters.

Lastly, one thing that I have put out before, but I'll just offer it again anyway, but a collab story involving two or more users. There's GC's Chaos Crisis and ET's Mask of Bara. What would HM have? Maybe to get started, some individual stories could be put it just to see what most users write. A collab story would have a major theme involving how all the worlds connect together and what the significance of human fear would be.

In the end, it may be easier to stick with the cosmology you already have, but I just wanted to offer my two cents.

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• 10/26/2014

Hey, I like these ideas, thanks!

Yeah, having a more dream-like Carollian spin on HM would be interesting. Perhaps something a bit like Inception? It could be that some powerful memetic life-form/deity absorbed the world into it's own mind to protect it from a powerful enemy (probably the Demons, but we could make it ambiguous) and so the enemy started torturing this being to try and reach the world? The Fog is the fear and bad dreams created by this torture, and it's plunging the world into nightmares. Then, the main plot involves having to kill the entity or put it into a brain-dead, catatonic sleep so it doesn't have to suffer anymore, à la the "impossible choice" from The Beast Below, episode 2 of season 5 of Doctor Who. I dunno, something along those lines with a more surreal spin. I'm just spitballing here.

A collaborative story was sort of what I had in mind, but I like your idea of how to do it. I've written 2-3 short stories so far, and I'm definitely curious to see what other users come up with. In fact, I'm thinking I could enlist some writers from Creativity Unleashed, since they love creepy surrealism :)

And a sane, Earth-like, familiar world would definitely amplify the utter horror of the Fogscape (or the Mind, if I use that memetic deity thing). Perhaps I could do something like The Matrix, where the sane world is a lie created to protect it's inhabitants from the utter horror of whatever you could call reality?

Finally, you're most certainly right about horror not just being fantasy. I'm now thinking about including a Victorian-style, 19th century gaslight/steampunk world, and perhaps making Contagion more science fiction-based. I think my creative energy is slowly being rekindled for this project :)

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• 10/26/2014
I like that idea. I could definitely see how the denizens of such a world would certainly feel small and frightened.
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