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Krayfish
TheReturnOfTheKing
• 12/19/2015

Wikia's New Terms of Use

Wikia just updated its terms of use. See here: [1]

I can't make it out, but the part about "company original content" seems like it might spell trouble for us, specifically regarding the move.

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Krayfish
TheReturnOfTheKing
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• 12/19/2015
Sounds very fishy. I'm going to have to spend some time reading it over so that I understand exactly what it means.
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• 12/19/2015

Okay, I've read it over a few times, and here's what I got from it:

This rule change is really more for wikias that are based on an existing intellectual property like Star Wars, Marvel etc. That is, no one can print pages from wikia, compile them into a book and sell them. A very understandable change since this violates the terms of use on both parties - the original creators of the properties as well as the writers of the fan wikias. Essentially, it's reinforcing better protection from anyone stealing our stuff.

The converse is that if we do decide to start selling anything related to the Nexus (like say, generate funds based on ads), then we have to abandon wikia entirely. We won't be able to use wikia as our primary writing medium, and we would have to work exclusively with the new site.

I'm unclear as to whether we have to delete the entirety of our content (hopefully not), but I think the best way to look at it is this: Whatever's on the site is canon. Anything on the wikia is fan fiction. So for example, Dark Prophecy cannot be adapted into a movie until it gets moved to the new site. Because until then, Dark Prophecy is considered Company Original Content. Since we're using Wikia as a writing medium much like GoogleDocs, the creative works still belong to us, but we do not own the actual wikia site itself.

Hopefully, that explains things. We could always ask wikia staff for further clarification, but what this means is that eventually, we'll have to abandon wikia entirely. Given that Wordpress hasn't really worked that well, our best of course of action is to completely redesign the site so that it's more user friendly which will be a huge time investment. As DarkWolf suggested a while ago, MediaWiki will likely be the best avenue to go.

The best time to move though is when we have good solid amount of content. In terms of priority, I think our best bet is to shift our focus and efforts to Dark Prophecy and Myth Galaxy since it's the most established setting we have so far. That way, we have something to show off right away once the Nexus site gets redesigned.

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• 12/23/2015

Okay, that makes sense. However, I think it would be very helpful to get in touch with Wikia staff to clarify a few things.

Switching focus to MG might be a good idea (I've got a few ideas for the setting and overarching story arc), but I'm on the fence about how complete the switch should be. I mean, what little work I've been getting done here has mostly been on ET, IH and off-line lore/world-building for HA, and I'm a bit worried that all that might evaporate if I stop working on those. On the other hand, I think that switch might be best for the move in general and for what's probably going to end up being our main setting, and of course, the needs of the Nexus are greater than the preferences of a single user, so I need to look at the big picture too. 

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• 12/23/2015

Oh, I didn't say we should abandon the other settings. By all means, we should keep working on them to reinforce that the Nexus is a multiverse, something which wasn't possible at first because we didn't have these other settings back then. I was just merely pointing out that Myth Galaxy is likely be the first setting to port over since there's already a ton of artwork and stories related to it, so it would be a good idea to iron out its loose ends.

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• 12/24/2015

Okay, I might've misunderstood, my bad. Still, I feel like I should probably help work on Myth Galaxy if we want to move it first. 

My two cents on the lore would be to keep a lot of things mysterious. I like how the mythos for this particular setting is very layered, with the Harbingers being introduced in Dark Prophecy which leads to Vern and the Titans being involved in Chaos Crisis which ends with Suntsitzeagal and the Anathema. I think we should take advantage of this slow build by not revealing too much early on. At first, none of the characters or readers should know who Sunt is or what the nature of Infra and the Harbingers is, and the enormous backstory of the Harbingers' creation and Vernietigen's purpose should be revealed organically over time as the stakes get steadily higher. Given that it's called Myth Galaxy, it seems only fitting that the setting should have a mythic feel, and I feel a slow build with lots of mystery and suspense is the best way to do that.

Btw, slightly off-topic, have you heard of Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere? It seems a bit similar to the concept of the Nexus imo.

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• 12/24/2015

This is basically what I think Myth Galaxy should feel like.

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• 12/24/2015

Great idea! That's part of the reason why I think Dark Prophecy should end more mysteriously. Basically, GSSOC is unsure if Vernietigen was actually released (he is of course, but they have no idea where he is) or if Infra was bluffing to save his own skin. It leaves some buffer room for the other stories so that they aren't heavily reliant on the previous ones in the series.

The Halo theme is definitely appropriate. When constructing a lot of the initial backstory of the Omni, we did use Halo (and a bit of Mass Effect) as references when figuring out what sort of role they should play in the story.

I haven't heard of Cosmere, although I'm a little familiar with Brandon Sanderson. (I've read about halfway through The Well of Ascension.) After a quick look up, I can definitely see the similarities. It's definitely a very adaptable way to handle the greater mythology we've established.

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